Making Them Fight: SVM vs. MLP vs. CNN
July 3, 2026During my exchange semester at University of Sydney, I had privilege of taking COMP4318 Machine Learning and Data Mining. As any normal student would do, I decided to put things I learned in the class to good use.
So I decided to build and compare three machine-learning classifiers on PathMNIST, a histopathology image benchmark: a Support Vector Machine with an RBF kernel on top of PCA (SVM+PCA), a feed-forward Multilayer Perceptron (MLP), and a Convolutional Neural Network (CNN). For each one I trained a baseline, tuned at least three hyper-parameters, retrained the best configuration, and evaluated on a held-out test set. As cliche as it may sound, it is about the journey and not the destination. As such, we will see that interesting part isn't which model wins. Rather, it's why it wins, and what that says about matching a model's inductive bias to the structure of the data.
Automated classification of histopathology patches is a very useful task and widely used in medicine. PathMNIST contains tissue patches cut from haematoxylin & eosin (H&E) stained colorectal cancer slides. Good models on this kind of data could help pathologists triage slides and reduce inter-observer variability. It also happens to be a clean setting to study one question: the same image can be handed to a margin-based kernel method that works on a fixed feature space, a fully-connected network that learns features but ignores spatial structure, and a convolutional network that bakes in locality and translation equivariance. Putting them side by side isolates the practical effect of inductive bias, capacity, and optimisation difficulty on one fixed task.
Lets start our journey by exploring the dataset. As my 3 month old cousin says, "every ML engineer is a data scientist, but not every data scientist is an ML engineer", we start by dissecting the data we have. This helps us make good decisions on structure of the pipeline, hyperparams, splits and so on.
The dataset
PathMNIST is a subset of the MedMNIST v2 benchmark, curated from H&E-stained
colorectal cancer slides. The version I used has RGB images across nine
tissue classes: Adipose (0), Background (1), Debris (2), Lymphocytes (3), Mucus (4),
Smooth muscle (5), Normal colon mucosa (6), Cancer-associated stroma (7), and
Colorectal adenocarcinoma epithelium (8). The split is 32,000 training images and
8,000 test images, each of shape , dtype uint8, with pixel values
in .

The dataset is moderately imbalanced: the largest class (Adenocarcinoma epithelium, 4,697 training images) is about the size of the smallest (Normal colon mucosa, 2,728). That's mild enough to skip resampling, but it does motivate reporting macro-F1 alongside accuracy and using stratified splits everywhere.

A couple of things from my cute little detour shaped every later decision. The green channel is systematically lower than red and blue (expected for H&E staining), with per-channel means of roughly . And when I average each class into a single mean image, three classes (Adipose, Background, Lymphocytes) collapse to very distinctive colours, while the other six have nearly identical pink/purple averages.

As we can see, six of the nine classes can't be told apart by colour. The discriminative signal is textural (clusters of nuclei, fibrous bands, mucus "holes"). Combined with the low resolution and the mild imbalance, this predicts that a model which can exploit local spatial structure should have a real advantage over one that flattens the image into a vector.
After we get a taste of dataset, let's move on to set the data up for training/processing.
Pre-processing
I kept normalisation identical across models to keep the comparison fair, adding per-model steps only where a model required them:
- Stratified train/validation split. I carved a stratified 10% validation set out of the training data, giving 28,800 training / 3,200 validation / 8,000 test images. And as we all know (incl. my 3 months old cousin), validation is used only for early stopping and hyper-parameter selection, never to refit the final models.
- Cast to
float32and scale to . Dividinguint8pixels by 255 puts everything on a common scale, which stabilises gradient descent for the neural nets and PCA for the SVM. - Flattening for SVM/PCA. SVM and PCA need vector input, so the
images are flattened to 2,352-dimensional vectors. Inside the
SVM pipeline I additionally apply
StandardScaler, because PCA is variance-based (an unscaled bright channel would dominate the principal axes) and the RBF kernel is sensitive to feature scale through . - Stratified sub-sampling for the SVM. A kernel SVM scales between and in the number of samples, so training on all 28,800 images is impractical on a CPU. I tuned the SVM on a stratified 6,000-image subset and trained the final model on a 12,000-image subset. This is a deliberate handicap (the SVM sees less than half the data the neural nets do), but the test set stays the same. We will talk more about this later.
I considered data augmentation (rotations/flips) and PCA whitening, but decided not to do both. The PathMNIST patches are already centred and cropped under a fixed protocol, and whitening empirically hurt cross-validated macro-F1 in early runs.
And finally, the moment we have all been waiting for.
The three m(usketeers)odels
SVM (RBF) + PCA. An SVM finds a maximum-margin hyperplane in a feature space induced by a kernel. With the RBF kernel
that feature space is infinite-dimensional, so the classifier can learn highly non-linear boundaries while only ever touching pairwise inner products. The parameter trades off training-fit against margin width (large ==> harder margin ==> more overfitting), and sets the kernel bandwidth (large ==> narrow Gaussians ==> very local boundaries). PCA projects the 2,352-dim pixel vectors onto their top principal directions, which fights the curse of dimensionality and cuts kernel cost. This is a fixed, data-independent feature transform followed by a margin classifier ( the exact opposite philosophy to the deep models).
Multilayer Perceptron (MLP). A stack of fully-connected layers with ReLU non-linearities and a softmax head, trained with Adam on sparse categorical cross-entropy. The MLP learns its features, but because the image is flattened first, every pixel position is an independent input; the network has no built-in notion of spatial neighbourhood. Dropout is the main regulariser.
Convolutional Neural Network (CNN). A CNN replaces the first dense layers with convolutional ones. A filter is slid across the input and reuses the same weights at every location, which builds in two biases that match natural images: locality (each output depends on a small neighbourhood) and translation equivariance (a fancy way of saying "feature detected in one spot is detected anywhere"). Weight sharing also means far fewer parameters than a comparable MLP, and each parameter gets gradient from many spatial positions, so training is much more sample-efficient.
Here's how I expected them to line up on PathMNIST specifically:
| Aspect | SVM (RBF)+PCA | MLP | CNN |
|---|---|---|---|
| Inductive bias for images | Weak, flat pixel vector | Weak, no spatial notion | Strong: locality + translation equivariance |
| Capacity | Flexible but tied to | Very high, rarely helps on raw pixels | Moderate but very expressive on images |
| Overfitting | Controlled by , , PCA | High, needs dropout | Lower, weight sharing regularises |
| Training cost | to ; capped at 12k | Linear per step; fast | Linear per step, heavier per epoch |
| # parameters | Support vectors instead | Largest here (4.0M total) | Smallest deep model (~468k) |
For this dataset the CNN's locality bias is exactly the right match, so I expected it to dominate. The SVM should be a strong baseline despite its data handicap. And MLP should be the the most fragile one. Why? Because MLP has the most parameters, no spatial bias, and the most sensitivity to initialisation on raw pixels.
It's time for some tun-tun..
Tuning
SVM. The pipeline is StandardScaler ==> PCA(d) ==> SVC(rbf, C, γ), tuned over a
-cell grid with 3-fold stratified cross-validation, scoring on
f1_macro. The three values per hyper-parameter bracket the qualitative regimes
rather than densely sampling one direction.
| Hyper-parameter | Values | Effect |
|---|---|---|
pca__n_components | 50, 100, 150 | Retained components; too few loses info, too many inflates kernel cost |
svc__C | 0.1, 1, 10 | Regularisation; small under-fits, large over-fits |
svc__gamma | "scale", 0.01, 0.001 | RBF bandwidth; small is smooth, large is wiggly |
The best configuration is , , at a 3-fold CV macro-F1 of .

| PCA | CV F1 | std | fit (s) | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 50 | 10 | 0.001 | 0.6103 | 0.0054 | 0.85 |
| 50 | 10 | scale | 0.6045 | 0.0046 | 0.73 |
| 50 | 1 | 0.001 | 0.5977 | 0.0017 | 0.77 |
| 100 | 10 | scale | 0.5936 | 0.0038 | 1.18 |
| 100 | 10 | 0.001 | 0.5927 | 0.0059 | 1.87 |
| 150 | 10 | scale | 0.5914 | 0.0046 | 1.57 |
| 50 | 1 | scale | 0.5844 | 0.0031 | 1.05 |
Three trends stand out, and all three match textbook expectations: small (= 0.1) severely under-fits and never clears ~0.49; very large (= 0.01) memorises the training set and drops CV F1; and 50 PCA components are already enough (they capture of the variance, and extra dimensions only inflate the kernel-distance computation).
MLP. Architecture:
Flatten ==> Dense(H, ReLU) ==> Dropout(d) ==> Dense(H/2, ReLU) ==> Dropout(d) ==> Dense(9, softmax),
Adam + sparse categorical cross-entropy. I kept depth fixed at two hidden layers so the
comparison with the CNN is about structure (dense vs. convolutional), not depth. I
used a manual -config grid (rather than GridSearchCV) so I
could record per-config training time and early-stopping behaviour, with
EarlyStopping(patience=3) on validation loss.
| Hyper-parameter | Values | Effect |
|---|---|---|
| Hidden width | 128, 256, 512 | Network capacity |
| Dropout | 0.2, 0.4 | Regularisation strength |
| Learning rate | , | Adam step size |
The best config is , , at validation accuracy . was consistently better ( oscillated and early-stopped), lower dropout was always better (raw-pixel MLPs need to fit aggressively), and wider layers helped monotonically: going from to added about 4 accuracy points. In the absence of any spatial bias, the network just needs raw capacity.

CNN. A small VGG-style network for input:
Conv(F,3×3,ReLU) ==> Conv(F,3×3,ReLU) ==> MaxPool(2) ==> Conv(2F,3×3,ReLU)
==> Conv(2F,3×3,ReLU) ==> MaxPool(2) ==> Flatten ==> Dense(128,ReLU) ==>
Dropout(d) ==> Dense(9, softmax)
Two pooling stages bring the resolution down to before flattening. I tuned
a small -config grid (each candidate costs 60-150 s on CPU) with
EarlyStopping(patience=3).
| Hyper-parameter | Values | Effect |
|---|---|---|
| First-block filters | 16, 32 | Capacity (doubled in the second block) |
| Dropout | 0.25, 0.50 | Regularisation on the dense head |
| Learning rate | , | Adam step size |
The best config is , , at validation accuracy . Doubling filters () reliably adds ~5 accuracy points, the higher learning rate is always preferred (training is capped at 12 epochs, so Adam at hasn't converged), and lower dropout is mildly better: the conv blocks' weight sharing is already a strong implicit regulariser, so heavy dropout starts to under-fit.

Results
After picking each model's best hyper-parameters, I retrained on the appropriate training set and evaluated once on the held-out test set. For the MLP I trained three random seeds and kept the best by validation accuracy; a single seed could land the wide network in a degenerate optimum where several classes were never predicted (per-class F1 near 0). Across three seeds validation accuracy was : small variance once you escape a degenerate basin, but the worst seed is far enough below the best that multi-seed training is a real safeguard.
| Model | Best hyper-parameters | Test acc. | Macro-F1 | Train (s) | Test inf. (s) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| SVM (RBF)+PCA | 0.6561 | 0.6484 | 2.1 | 2.92 | |
| MLP | 0.5330 | 0.4971 | 98.5 | 0.30 | |
| CNN | 0.8552 | 0.8511 | 244.0 | 1.23 |
The CNN dominates on both accuracy () and macro-F1 (), about a 20-point gap over the SVM and 32 over the MLP. The SVM beats the MLP despite seeing less than half the training data, which is a good evidence of how much the lack of spatial bias hurts a dense network on raw pixels.
On runtime, the ordering is SVM < MLP < CNN to train. However, the reverse holds at inference. The SVM fits its 12k subset in 2.1 s (LIBSVM's SMO solver) but is slowest to predict (every prediction is a kernel evaluation against all support vectors, so 8,000 test images cost ~2.9 s). The MLP is fastest at inference (0.30 s) since it's a single forward pass. The CNN is most expensive to train (244 s) but its inference is essentially free (1.23 s). This difference does not look much, but if we scale the disparity increases real quick. The neural nets' inference cost is independent of the training-set size, but the SVM's grows with the number of support vectors.


Where the models actually differ
The per-class breakdown is where we can answer "why". Classes with strong colour signatures (Adipose, Background, Lymphocytes) are easy for every model ( F1, and for the CNN). The confusable H&E-palette classes (Debris, Smooth muscle, Stroma, Adenocarcinoma) are difficult for everyone, but the CNN is decent at all three: on Mucus, Smooth muscle, and Normal mucosa it scores to , roughly 20-70 F1 points above the SVM and MLP.


The MLP's failure is an elegant one. It almost never predicts Normal mucosa (class 6), at precision and recall , because the wide dense network leans on global colour statistics and simply can't see the textural patterns that separates it. The confusion matrix makes it visible in a way test accuracy alone never would.
There's also a precision/recall asymmetry worth looking at, since it's exactly the kind of thing that matters in a medical setting where a false negative on a cancer class is far costlier than a false alarm. The CNN on Cancer-associated stroma (class 7) runs precision , recall : conservative, but it misses ~41% of true stroma. On Adenocarcinoma (class 8) it's nicely balanced at precision , recall . The CNN is the only model with a clear precision-over-recall bias on a cancer class, so if it were ever deployed for screening it would want a threshold sweep or a calibrated decision boundary.

The kinds of mistakes are qualitatively different. The MLP swaps freely between any two brown/pink textured classes (Debris and Stroma, Adenocarcinoma and Smooth muscle), consistent with relying on global colour. The SVM is better calibrated but still sends 31% of Debris to Stroma. The CNN's residual errors are almost all Stroma vs. Adenocarcinoma, related categories that share fine texture and are genuinely ambiguous at this resolution.
Who won?
The empirical ranking is CNN, then SVM, then MLP, and it matches the prediction I made before running anything. A few things I took away from this battle:
- Inductive bias is the single biggest factor here. The CNN's locality and translation equivariance are worth more than the MLP's extra millions of parameters or the SVM's kernel flexibility. Matching the model's structure to the structure of the data beat raw capacity every time.
- Overall/Headline accuracy hides the interesting behaviour. The MLP's near-total collapse on Normal mucosa, and the CNN's precision-over-recall bias on stroma, only showed up in the per-class F1 and confusion matrices.
- Pre-processing is fun, definitely not a chore. Flattening for the
SVM/MLP quietly discards the 2D arrangement those models would need to use local
texture. Scaling to and fitting
StandardScaleron training folds only (never the test set) is what keeps the comparison fair and leak-free.
Short answer: us. Me and you, the reader, won. We learned something new today. Will this help us put food on our table? Maybe not. Will this make AI happy if it were to be sentient? Forsuh.
I will upload the python notebook file (and potentially the dataset I used) later.
If later >= 2 weeks from the date posted, don't hesitate to shoot me a message.
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