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Making Them Fight: SVM vs. MLP vs. CNN

July 3, 2026

During my exchange semester at University of Sydney, I had privilege of taking COMP4318 Machine Learning and Data Mining. As any normal student would do, I decided to put things I learned in the class to good use.

So I decided to build and compare three machine-learning classifiers on PathMNIST, a histopathology image benchmark: a Support Vector Machine with an RBF kernel on top of PCA (SVM+PCA), a feed-forward Multilayer Perceptron (MLP), and a Convolutional Neural Network (CNN). For each one I trained a baseline, tuned at least three hyper-parameters, retrained the best configuration, and evaluated on a held-out test set. As cliche as it may sound, it is about the journey and not the destination. As such, we will see that interesting part isn't which model wins. Rather, it's why it wins, and what that says about matching a model's inductive bias to the structure of the data.

Automated classification of histopathology patches is a very useful task and widely used in medicine. PathMNIST contains tissue patches cut from haematoxylin & eosin (H&E) stained colorectal cancer slides. Good models on this kind of data could help pathologists triage slides and reduce inter-observer variability. It also happens to be a clean setting to study one question: the same 28×2828 \times 28 image can be handed to a margin-based kernel method that works on a fixed feature space, a fully-connected network that learns features but ignores spatial structure, and a convolutional network that bakes in locality and translation equivariance. Putting them side by side isolates the practical effect of inductive bias, capacity, and optimisation difficulty on one fixed task.

Lets start our journey by exploring the dataset. As my 3 month old cousin says, "every ML engineer is a data scientist, but not every data scientist is an ML engineer", we start by dissecting the data we have. This helps us make good decisions on structure of the pipeline, hyperparams, splits and so on.

The dataset

PathMNIST is a subset of the MedMNIST v2 benchmark, curated from H&E-stained colorectal cancer slides. The version I used has 28×2828 \times 28 RGB images across nine tissue classes: Adipose (0), Background (1), Debris (2), Lymphocytes (3), Mucus (4), Smooth muscle (5), Normal colon mucosa (6), Cancer-associated stroma (7), and Colorectal adenocarcinoma epithelium (8). The split is 32,000 training images and 8,000 test images, each of shape (28,28,3)(28, 28, 3), dtype uint8, with pixel values in [0,255][0, 255].

Six random training samples for each of the nine tissue classes.
Six random samples per class. Adipose, Background, and Lymphocytes carry strong colour cues, while Debris, Smooth muscle, Stroma, and Adenocarcinoma share the same H&E pink/purple palette.

The dataset is moderately imbalanced: the largest class (Adenocarcinoma epithelium, 4,697 training images) is about 1.72×1.72\times the size of the smallest (Normal colon mucosa, 2,728). That's mild enough to skip resampling, but it does motivate reporting macro-F1 alongside accuracy and using stratified splits everywhere.

Class distribution bar charts for the training and test splits.
Class distribution in the training (left) and test (right) sets. Both splits share the same proportions; the imbalance ratio (max/min) is 1.72.

A couple of things from my cute little detour shaped every later decision. The green channel is systematically lower than red and blue (expected for H&E staining), with per-channel means of roughly (188.7, 135.9, 180.1)(188.7,\ 135.9,\ 180.1). And when I average each class into a single mean image, three classes (Adipose, Background, Lymphocytes) collapse to very distinctive colours, while the other six have nearly identical pink/purple averages.

Per-class mean images showing distinctive colours for three classes and near-identical averages for the rest.
Per-class mean images. Adipose, Background, and Lymphocytes have distinctive colour signatures; the remaining six are nearly identical on average, so they can only be separated by texture.

As we can see, six of the nine classes can't be told apart by colour. The discriminative signal is textural (clusters of nuclei, fibrous bands, mucus "holes"). Combined with the low 28×2828 \times 28 resolution and the mild imbalance, this predicts that a model which can exploit local spatial structure should have a real advantage over one that flattens the image into a vector.

After we get a taste of dataset, let's move on to set the data up for training/processing.

Pre-processing

I kept normalisation identical across models to keep the comparison fair, adding per-model steps only where a model required them:

  • Stratified train/validation split. I carved a stratified 10% validation set out of the training data, giving 28,800 training / 3,200 validation / 8,000 test images. And as we all know (incl. my 3 months old cousin), validation is used only for early stopping and hyper-parameter selection, never to refit the final models.
  • Cast to float32 and scale to [0,1][0, 1]. Dividing uint8 pixels by 255 puts everything on a common scale, which stabilises gradient descent for the neural nets and PCA for the SVM.
  • Flattening for SVM/PCA. SVM and PCA need vector input, so the 28×28×328 \times 28 \times 3 images are flattened to 2,352-dimensional vectors. Inside the SVM pipeline I additionally apply StandardScaler, because PCA is variance-based (an unscaled bright channel would dominate the principal axes) and the RBF kernel is sensitive to feature scale through γ\gamma.
  • Stratified sub-sampling for the SVM. A kernel SVM scales between O(N2)\mathcal{O}(N^2) and O(N3)\mathcal{O}(N^3) in the number of samples, so training on all 28,800 images is impractical on a CPU. I tuned the SVM on a stratified 6,000-image subset and trained the final model on a 12,000-image subset. This is a deliberate handicap (the SVM sees less than half the data the neural nets do), but the test set stays the same. We will talk more about this later.

I considered data augmentation (rotations/flips) and PCA whitening, but decided not to do both. The PathMNIST patches are already centred and cropped under a fixed protocol, and whitening empirically hurt cross-validated macro-F1 in early runs.

And finally, the moment we have all been waiting for.

The three m(usketeers)odels

SVM (RBF) + PCA. An SVM finds a maximum-margin hyperplane in a feature space induced by a kernel. With the RBF kernel

k(xi,xj)=exp ⁣(γxixj2)k(\mathbf{x}_i, \mathbf{x}_j) = \exp\!\left(-\gamma \|\mathbf{x}_i - \mathbf{x}_j\|^2\right)

that feature space is infinite-dimensional, so the classifier can learn highly non-linear boundaries while only ever touching pairwise inner products. The parameter CC trades off training-fit against margin width (large CC ==> harder margin ==> more overfitting), and γ\gamma sets the kernel bandwidth (large γ\gamma ==> narrow Gaussians ==> very local boundaries). PCA projects the 2,352-dim pixel vectors onto their top dd principal directions, which fights the curse of dimensionality and cuts kernel cost. This is a fixed, data-independent feature transform followed by a margin classifier ( the exact opposite philosophy to the deep models).

Multilayer Perceptron (MLP). A stack of fully-connected layers h=σ(Wh1+b)\mathbf{h}_\ell = \sigma(\mathbf{W}_\ell \mathbf{h}_{\ell-1} + \mathbf{b}_\ell) with ReLU non-linearities and a softmax head, trained with Adam on sparse categorical cross-entropy. The MLP learns its features, but because the image is flattened first, every pixel position is an independent input; the network has no built-in notion of spatial neighbourhood. Dropout is the main regulariser.

Convolutional Neural Network (CNN). A CNN replaces the first dense layers with convolutional ones. A filter is slid across the input and reuses the same weights at every location, which builds in two biases that match natural images: locality (each output depends on a small neighbourhood) and translation equivariance (a fancy way of saying "feature detected in one spot is detected anywhere"). Weight sharing also means far fewer parameters than a comparable MLP, and each parameter gets gradient from many spatial positions, so training is much more sample-efficient.

Here's how I expected them to line up on PathMNIST specifically:

AspectSVM (RBF)+PCAMLPCNN
Inductive bias for imagesWeak, flat pixel vectorWeak, no spatial notionStrong: locality + translation equivariance
CapacityFlexible but tied to C/γC/\gammaVery high, rarely helps on raw pixelsModerate but very expressive on images
OverfittingControlled by CC, γ\gamma, PCA ddHigh, needs dropoutLower, weight sharing regularises
Training costO(N2)\mathcal{O}(N^2) to O(N3)\mathcal{O}(N^3); capped at 12kLinear per step; fastLinear per step, heavier per epoch
# parametersSupport vectors insteadLargest here (4.0M total)Smallest deep model (~468k)

For this dataset the CNN's locality bias is exactly the right match, so I expected it to dominate. The SVM should be a strong baseline despite its data handicap. And MLP should be the the most fragile one. Why? Because MLP has the most parameters, no spatial bias, and the most sensitivity to initialisation on raw pixels.

It's time for some tun-tun..

Tuning

SVM. The pipeline is StandardScaler ==> PCA(d) ==> SVC(rbf, C, γ), tuned over a 3×3×3=273 \times 3 \times 3 = 27-cell grid with 3-fold stratified cross-validation, scoring on f1_macro. The three values per hyper-parameter bracket the qualitative regimes rather than densely sampling one direction.

Hyper-parameterValuesEffect
pca__n_components50, 100, 150Retained components; too few loses info, too many inflates kernel cost
svc__C0.1, 1, 10Regularisation; small under-fits, large over-fits
svc__gamma"scale", 0.01, 0.001RBF bandwidth; small is smooth, large is wiggly

The best configuration is C=10C = 10, γ=0.001\gamma = 0.001, dPCA=50d_{\text{PCA}} = 50 at a 3-fold CV macro-F1 of 0.6100.610.

Heatmap of SVM cross-validated macro-F1 across PCA components, C, and gamma.
SVM grid-search landscape (3-fold CV macro-F1). Best: d_PCA = 50, C = 10, γ = 0.001.
PCA ddCCγ\gammaCV F1stdfit (s)
50100.0010.61030.00540.85
5010scale0.60450.00460.73
5010.0010.59770.00170.77
10010scale0.59360.00381.18
100100.0010.59270.00591.87
15010scale0.59140.00461.57
501scale0.58440.00311.05

Three trends stand out, and all three match textbook expectations: small CC (= 0.1) severely under-fits and never clears ~0.49; very large γ\gamma (= 0.01) memorises the training set and drops CV F1; and 50 PCA components are already enough (they capture 80%\geq 80\% of the variance, and extra dimensions only inflate the kernel-distance computation).

MLP. Architecture: Flatten ==> Dense(H, ReLU) ==> Dropout(d) ==> Dense(H/2, ReLU) ==> Dropout(d) ==> Dense(9, softmax), Adam + sparse categorical cross-entropy. I kept depth fixed at two hidden layers so the comparison with the CNN is about structure (dense vs. convolutional), not depth. I used a manual 3×2×2=123 \times 2 \times 2 = 12-config grid (rather than GridSearchCV) so I could record per-config training time and early-stopping behaviour, with EarlyStopping(patience=3) on validation loss.

Hyper-parameterValuesEffect
Hidden width HH128, 256, 512Network capacity
Dropout dd0.2, 0.4Regularisation strength
Learning rate10310^{-3}, 10410^{-4}Adam step size

The best config is H=512H = 512, d=0.2d = 0.2, lr=104\text{lr} = 10^{-4} at validation accuracy 0.5040.504. 10410^{-4} was consistently better (10310^{-3} oscillated and early-stopped), lower dropout was always better (raw-pixel MLPs need to fit aggressively), and wider layers helped monotonically: going from H=128H = 128 to H=512H = 512 added about 4 accuracy points. In the absence of any spatial bias, the network just needs raw capacity.

MLP validation accuracy and training time across the hyper-parameter grid.
MLP search. Left: validation accuracy across (H, d, lr); right: per-config training time. Wide networks with d = 0.2 and lr = 1e-4 win.

CNN. A small VGG-style network for 28×2828 \times 28 input:

Conv(F,3×3,ReLU) ==> Conv(F,3×3,ReLU) ==> MaxPool(2) ==> Conv(2F,3×3,ReLU) 
==> Conv(2F,3×3,ReLU) ==> MaxPool(2) ==> Flatten ==> Dense(128,ReLU) ==> 
Dropout(d) ==> Dense(9, softmax)

Two pooling stages bring the resolution down to 7×77 \times 7 before flattening. I tuned a small 2×2×2=82 \times 2 \times 2 = 8-config grid (each candidate costs 60-150 s on CPU) with EarlyStopping(patience=3).

Hyper-parameterValuesEffect
First-block filters FF16, 32Capacity (doubled in the second block)
Dropout dd0.25, 0.50Regularisation on the dense head
Learning rate10310^{-3}, 10410^{-4}Adam step size

The best config is F=32F = 32, d=0.25d = 0.25, lr=103\text{lr} = 10^{-3} at validation accuracy 0.8630.863. Doubling filters (163216 \to 32) reliably adds ~5 accuracy points, the higher learning rate is always preferred (training is capped at 12 epochs, so Adam at 10410^{-4} hasn't converged), and lower dropout is mildly better: the conv blocks' weight sharing is already a strong implicit regulariser, so heavy dropout starts to under-fit.

CNN validation accuracy and training time across the hyper-parameter grid.
CNN search. Increasing F from 16 to 32 and using lr = 1e-3 are the dominant effects.

Results

After picking each model's best hyper-parameters, I retrained on the appropriate training set and evaluated once on the held-out test set. For the MLP I trained three random seeds and kept the best by validation accuracy; a single seed could land the wide network in a degenerate optimum where several classes were never predicted (per-class F1 near 0). Across three seeds validation accuracy was {0.527,0.541,0.543}\{0.527, 0.541, 0.543\}: small variance once you escape a degenerate basin, but the worst seed is far enough below the best that multi-seed training is a real safeguard.

ModelBest hyper-parametersTest acc.Macro-F1Train (s)Test inf. (s)
SVM (RBF)+PCAdPCA=50, C=10, γ=0.001d_{\text{PCA}} = 50,\ C = 10,\ \gamma = 0.0010.65610.64842.12.92
MLPH=512, d=0.2, lr=104H = 512,\ d = 0.2,\ \text{lr} = 10^{-4}0.53300.497198.50.30
CNNF=32, d=0.25, lr=103F = 32,\ d = 0.25,\ \text{lr} = 10^{-3}0.85520.8511244.01.23

The CNN dominates on both accuracy (0.8550.855) and macro-F1 (0.8510.851), about a 20-point gap over the SVM and 32 over the MLP. The SVM beats the MLP despite seeing less than half the training data, which is a good evidence of how much the lack of spatial bias hurts a dense network on raw pixels.

On runtime, the ordering is SVM < MLP < CNN to train. However, the reverse holds at inference. The SVM fits its 12k subset in 2.1 s (LIBSVM's SMO solver) but is slowest to predict (every prediction is a kernel evaluation against all support vectors, so 8,000 test images cost ~2.9 s). The MLP is fastest at inference (0.30 s) since it's a single forward pass. The CNN is most expensive to train (244 s) but its inference is essentially free (1.23 s). This difference does not look much, but if we scale the disparity increases real quick. The neural nets' inference cost is independent of the training-set size, but the SVM's grows with the number of support vectors.

CNN training and validation loss and accuracy curves over epochs.
CNN final training. Train and validation tracks stay close; the small CNN isn't strongly overfitting, and early stopping triggers at epoch 19.
MLP training and validation loss and accuracy curves over epochs.
MLP final training. Validation plateaus around epoch 10 while training loss keeps falling, the overfitting the CNN mostly avoids.

Where the models actually differ

The per-class breakdown is where we can answer "why". Classes with strong colour signatures (Adipose, Background, Lymphocytes) are easy for every model (0.84\geq 0.84 F1, and 0.957\geq 0.957 for the CNN). The confusable H&E-palette classes (Debris, Smooth muscle, Stroma, Adenocarcinoma) are difficult for everyone, but the CNN is decent at all three: on Mucus, Smooth muscle, and Normal mucosa it scores 0.8230.823 to 0.8590.859, roughly 20-70 F1 points above the SVM and MLP.

Per-class F1 bar chart for the three models on the test set.
Per-class F1 on the test set. All three models handle the colour-distinct classes; only the CNN recovers the texture-defined ones.
Row-normalised confusion matrices for SVM, MLP, and CNN.
Row-normalised confusion matrices (rows = true, columns = predicted). The CNN's diagonal is markedly cleaner, especially on classes 5, 6, and 8.

The MLP's failure is an elegant one. It almost never predicts Normal mucosa (class 6), at precision 0.2790.279 and recall 0.0820.082, because the wide dense network leans on global colour statistics and simply can't see the textural patterns that separates it. The confusion matrix makes it visible in a way test accuracy alone never would.

There's also a precision/recall asymmetry worth looking at, since it's exactly the kind of thing that matters in a medical setting where a false negative on a cancer class is far costlier than a false alarm. The CNN on Cancer-associated stroma (class 7) runs precision 0.7420.742, recall 0.5870.587: conservative, but it misses ~41% of true stroma. On Adenocarcinoma (class 8) it's nicely balanced at precision 0.8980.898, recall 0.8720.872. The CNN is the only model with a clear precision-over-recall bias on a cancer class, so if it were ever deployed for screening it would want a threshold sweep or a calibrated decision boundary.

Grid of CNN misclassification examples with true and predicted labels.
CNN misclassifications (true label top, predicted bottom). The remaining errors concentrate on Stroma and Adenocarcinoma, biologically related tissue that's hard to tell apart even for a human in a 28×28 patch.

The kinds of mistakes are qualitatively different. The MLP swaps freely between any two brown/pink textured classes (Debris and Stroma, Adenocarcinoma and Smooth muscle), consistent with relying on global colour. The SVM is better calibrated but still sends 31% of Debris to Stroma. The CNN's residual errors are almost all Stroma vs. Adenocarcinoma, related categories that share fine texture and are genuinely ambiguous at this resolution.

Who won?

The empirical ranking is CNN, then SVM, then MLP, and it matches the prediction I made before running anything. A few things I took away from this battle:

  • Inductive bias is the single biggest factor here. The CNN's locality and translation equivariance are worth more than the MLP's extra millions of parameters or the SVM's kernel flexibility. Matching the model's structure to the structure of the data beat raw capacity every time.
  • Overall/Headline accuracy hides the interesting behaviour. The MLP's near-total collapse on Normal mucosa, and the CNN's precision-over-recall bias on stroma, only showed up in the per-class F1 and confusion matrices.
  • Pre-processing is fun, definitely not a chore. Flattening for the SVM/MLP quietly discards the 2D arrangement those models would need to use local texture. Scaling to [0,1][0, 1] and fitting StandardScaler on training folds only (never the test set) is what keeps the comparison fair and leak-free.

Short answer: us. Me and you, the reader, won. We learned something new today. Will this help us put food on our table? Maybe not. Will this make AI happy if it were to be sentient? Forsuh.

I will upload the python notebook file (and potentially the dataset I used) later. If later >= 2 weeks from the date posted, don't hesitate to shoot me a message.

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